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PS Plus – cannibalising sales?

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23:03
Mar 17th 2013


LETHAL_Gman

London

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I am curious about how Sony manage to persuade 3rd party publishers to allow their games onto PS Plus.

Does anyone know how they share revenue from the service? Do Sony pay a one off amount, or do they share part of the subscription revenue, or offer the publishers all revenues generated from DLC?

Also, I wondered if the service might cannibalise sales for PS3/Vita games? I know I've held off buying any Vita games because of it.

I think the service is excellent value for money by the way, but wondered if there was, potentially, any long term negative effects for the industry. Might a drop in game sales (as people either wait for games to come onto the service or are too busy playing the games on it already) mean less new games made in the future?

Keen to read about your thoughts.

06:57
Mar 18th 2013


Adamski UK

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I don't own a PS3, but I was thinking about something similar over the weekend.

I popped in to HMV for a gander. New BluRay movies are all around the £20 mark. Mucho expensivo.
The, like a vulture circling overhead, I dived into a Blockbuster store on their last day of opening – just to see if there were any scraps…and I then realised (as many, many others have done so before me)…instant download rentals. That's been the key to their demise (or a greater part of their demise).

With the PS Plus its almost like paying a game rental service. I'm sure Sony have run a number of similar Latinos against this business model to get the value proposition just right….and perhaps in their favour!
Maybe they chose titles based on their sales performance, so if your project is suffering, along come Sony to give you a boost, providing you agree to their terms.

It must also be good to get your title headlining alongside some of the big hitters too…I would think some publishers relish that too.

Or, Sony are keeping a very close eye on the number of PS Plus subscribers and when they hit a peak, they will no longer release such great titles with the frequency they have been via PS Plus…

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10:02
Mar 18th 2013


MantisMat

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Interesting topic we've got going on here.

Here is a thought.

If you get one of your games into the PS Plus service, not only are you getting people to play your game who might not have before, getting brand awareness, picking up new fans and not to mention – get some more possible DLC income.  I suppose getting exposure to your game isn't a bad thing. 

10:18
Mar 18th 2013


Bob Lord of Doom

Fife, Scotland

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I would say it makes the most sense for games to go on PS plus if there is a sequel coming out soon or if there is a big DLC launch like with mass effect 3. So people who haven't played it yet get interested and it refreshes the minds of people who played it ages ago

12:10
Mar 18th 2013


guernica2

Royal Berkshire

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Adamski UK said:

With the PS Plus its almost like paying a game rental service.

The way I see it, it's exactly like paying a game rental service, except you don't get to choose which games to rent.

 

I've never been much of a renter myself, but I have to say that PS Plus doesn't seem like bad value, if you play enough games to get the most out of it.  Like going to the gym.  The more times you go in a month, the better the value is per visit.

 

I will rent films though, and do subscribe to Netflix.  I just see films as a slightly different time investment to games.  Normally two hours and you're done with a film.

 

I do enjoy when the PS+ subscribers refer to the latest releases as being free.  It states this on the Sony website as well, as if they're trying to con people into believing that it is free.  I never watch a film on Netflix and think that I'm getting it for free.

 

Kudos to Sony for convincing people they're getting something for nothing.

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23:23
Mar 18th 2013


LETHAL_Gman

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I do wonder, though, if sales of new games have reduced as a result (although it must be difficult to say with any certainty and this assumes there are some people who have changed their buying habits as a result of the PS Plus service).

Retailers might be the main losers.

It will be interesting to see Microsoft's response on the next xbox.

07:36
Mar 19th 2013


MantisMat

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i'd like to see something extra as a kick back for Xbox Live Gold accounts

11:16
Mar 19th 2013


guernica2

Royal Berkshire

Ep 26: Internally Grateful

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It does suck that you have to pay to play online with Microsoft, but it is a great service.

 

Can anybody tell me if the Playstation play online service is anywhere near the level of Microsoft?

 

I haven't played the PS3 online for a very long time because it was always such hard work.

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13:11
Mar 19th 2013


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It does suck that you have to pay to play online with Microsoft, but it is a great service.

 

Can anybody tell me if the Playstation play online service is anywhere near the level of Microsoft?

 

I haven't played the PS3 online for a very long time because it was always such hard work.

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20:41
Mar 19th 2013


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Most, if not all, the titles on PS+ will have been out a while and therefore probably not attract many extra sales. For example Sleeping Dogs. Went on PS+ several months after retail therefore most people who were going to buy it already had. Hence very few sales lost. But I bet they sold a shed load of DLC off the back of it.

As others have mentioned, sticking an older title on there just before the sequel is released (Darksiders springs to mind) will spur interest in the new title.

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19:44
Mar 20th 2013


ShatnerzBassoon

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The PS3 online experience is fine from a gaming perspective, Ive recently gone back to the PS3 and loving it, its the community side that suffers a little with no group chat outside of a games and its not as simple to drop into games with friends. 

 

The reason I totaly lost interest in the 360 was its move towards the media box, plastered in advertisments and paying a subscription for very little in return. I want a games machine and the the three month PS+ subscription for PS3 which is readily available for £9 was driver for me.

Three pounds a month for which this month I got Mass Effect 3, Metal Gear Solid HD collection, Little Big Planet 2, Infamous 2, Unchartered Golden Abys, Mortal Kombat, Dead or Alive 5, Gravity Rush, Guardians Middle Earth for my PS3 and Vita and a load of minis and Indy stuff too… theres very little filler or shit, just a ton of great games that you get to keep while ever you subscribe, its just bloody exceptional.

 

It must mean the relevent games take a hit, even more so because I become reluctant to buy a lot of stuff thats been out in the last 3-6 months incase its free next month on PS+ lol

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