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21:48
Sep 7th 2010
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Mogg
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Just wondering if there are any other veggies on the forum ?
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07:02
Sep 8th 2010
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windjunky
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yay.. another veggie weirdo!
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11:02
Sep 8th 2010
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I Snajper I
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Phizzy and you two weirdos
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11:13
Sep 8th 2010
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Azrial
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Post edited 11:16 – Sep 8th 2010 by Vampire Azrial
Veggie here as well, well tell a lie, I'm a Pescetarian, I eat fish as well, but no other animals.
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11:27
Sep 8th 2010
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Mesozoic Prinny
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I'm basically a carnivore, although I do sometimes eat cheesecake. That's practically a vegetable, right?
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14:01
Sep 8th 2010
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Phizzy
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Yes, me. Apparently when I was two I told my mum 'I WON'T eat a swimmy fish!' and I haven't eaten any animals since. Except that dragon this one time. Mythical creatures don't count.
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15:49
Sep 8th 2010
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windjunky
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Since the day I made the connection of what was on my plate to being a once living creature I stopped eating meat. My reasoning was 'I love animals, therefore I don't eat them'
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16:16
Sep 8th 2010
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I Snajper I
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I love animals too. Especially their meat. But I've never eaten the meat of an animal I haven't killed.
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16:20
Sep 8th 2010
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windjunky
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Respect to Snaj… I'd bet there'd be a whole shit load more veggies if everyone had to slaughter their own animals.
I filleted a salmon once.. I still have nightmares!
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17:29
Sep 8th 2010
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CherryScones
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I only eat meat that comes in boxes like Findus or Bernard Matthews or Tesco and considering the amount of faffing it'll have had done to it and the amount of water and shite added for good measure there is practically no real meat left in it anyway so does that count as almost Vegetarian then????? Plus I cannot bring myself to eat fish if Ive seen its head and googly eyes first *shudders at the thought*. 
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17:36
Sep 8th 2010
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Ancient Gamer
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I was veggie for 7 years but I think the lack of bacon sandwiches was effecting my sanity so I lapsed.
If pig was a vegetable I'd still be a veggie.
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19:03
Sep 8th 2010
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The Tigerpig
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I've been a veggie for several years. I still occasionally
eat fish but only when I have a major protein craving. I have also hunted,
killed and butchered many different animals for myself, but, after seeing a
report one night on pigs (some disease or something) and I witnessed their
reactions within the slaughter house, I could no longer justify eating an
animal that had suffered in that way. (I should point out I have had a life
long love of pigs, no idea why!)
As my wife has been a veggie for many years it took no
effort at all to make the change (my diet was 99% veggie anyway I only ate meat
when we went out).
I should also point out that I have no problem with anyone
eating or not eating meat but I do agree with GoddTodd, people should really be
prepared to kill and butcher something for themselves, and see where the stuff comes from. That act can really
change your view of what life is.
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19:31
Sep 8th 2010
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windjunky
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There's really no need to kill or butcher an animal. If it was a choice between life or death then I guess I'd choose to eat the bacon butty, but that day will never come.
During an average persons lifetime they consume thousands of animals including 18 pigs, 23 sheep/lambs and over 1200 chickens.. I just wouldn't sleep at night with that kind of fucked up ignorant lifestyle.
There's no argument that promotes the killing and butchering of another living being that can justify eating meat. I actually despise the people that do choose to eat it after knowing all the facts about the way meat is produced in factory intensive farms etc. and I despise the ignorance of people that allow themselves to be fooled so easily by the meat industry.
People can joke about carrots being a living thing, but there's just no comparison to the pain and grief of a factory farmed animal. Pigs feel pain the same way humans do.. carrots don't.
All joking aside.. I love hunting accidents 
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21:16
Sep 8th 2010
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Ancient Gamer
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I think despising people for choosing to eat meat is a bit strong to be honest.
Interesting that there are a lot of veggies on here tho. Is there some sort of crossover between being veggie and liking gaming?
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21:32
Sep 8th 2010
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mikeydredlox
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Post edited 21:33 – Sep 8th 2010 by mikeydredlox
I was full time veggie (bordering on vegan) for a while for ethical/health/environmental reasons, but struggled with the prospect of never enjoying another burger/christmas turkey/bacon sandwhich/fillet steak for the rest of my life
since then I decided to just eat meat at the weekend, and will only eat ethically reared free range/organic when I do
so I guess I'm a weekday veggie – it seems to work well for me
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21:48
Sep 8th 2010
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Mogg
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mikeydredlox said:
I was full time veggie (bordering on vegan) for a while for ethical/health/environmental reasons, but struggled with the prospect of never enjoying another burger/christmas turkey/bacon sandwhich/fillet steak for the rest of my life
since then I decided to just eat meat at the weekend, and will only eat ethically reared free range/organic when I do
so I guess I'm a weekday veggie – it seems to work well for me
Seems like you've got the right idea and that your taking resposability for what your eating  , good on you my man!
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01:07
Sep 9th 2010
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Phizzy
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Ancient Gamer said:
I think despising people for choosing to eat meat is a bit strong to be honest.
I can completely understand that position if people have seen what goes on and still choose to ignore it just because they like the taste.
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06:47
Sep 9th 2010
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guernica2
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What's going on here?
Surely all these animals have been bred for eating over the centuries. I don't have a problem eating meat that has been reared and killed responsibly. It costs more, but I couldn't be dealing with that super cheap, quick reared, pumped full of antibiotics meat. It's just not the done thing.
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11:28
Sep 9th 2010
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Azrial
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I've been a pescetarian for about 25 years, the wife's been a veggie for about 35 and recently has gone full vegan, I agree with the above comments that if your gonna be a meat eater, you should kill what your going to eat, as 99% of shop bought meat is killed in a barbaric way and pumped full of chemicals and water to make it look better when in reality it probably isn't even fit for dogs to eat, unless you buy it straight from the farm where it was killed, then your eating slop and shit, companies pump it full of crap to make more meals out of one animal and to make it last longer on shop shelves.
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12:21
Sep 9th 2010
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Mesozoic Prinny
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Seventy-odd years ago my great-grandfathers were both shooting Germans in France because there were Germans in France. I've never shot a German in France because he was a German in France, even though I've been to France and there were Germans there. Funny that.
Speaking of Germans, we haven't heard much from Oli recently have we? I wonder if it's because of the FFXIV beta.
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13:07
Sep 9th 2010
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Mesozoic Prinny
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Holy smoke! I just realised I've got two more great-grandfathers that I never met! I wonder if they got shot by Germans in France for being English?
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14:26
Sep 9th 2010
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windjunky
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Surely all these animals have been bred for eating over the centuries. I don't have a problem eating meat that has been reared and killed responsibly. It costs more, but I couldn't be dealing with that super cheap, quick reared, pumped full of antibiotics meat. It's just not the done thing.
By this sort of reasoning, it would be perfectly acceptable to eat humans if we raised them for food.
What is the difference between a pig raised on a farm and a pig raised as a pet? What is the difference between a human hypothetically raised on a farm and a human raised in society?
I’m having trouble writing a lot in response to this argument, because it just doesn’t make sense. People used to be raised to be slaves… was that OK?
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15:03
Sep 9th 2010
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Hugo Rune
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Ok people an emotive subject for some and a life choice for others. So if you are, you are, if you're not you're not.
One things for sure though, its unlikely anyone's going to move their view point on the back of a ping pong argument. People are just going to get pissed.
By coincidence a few of us had this conversation on Tuesday night because I mentioned we just got a couple of chickens for eggs and then felt a little self concious that there was a chicken in the fridge for Sunday lunch.
Phizzy asked what we'd do with them when they stopped laying and we'd already checked it all out and they live for around 12 years so they are going to be pets, helping with the weeding and the like. Now I couldn't kill them and eat them as soon as they become unproductive but that's me. A lot of people will be of the opinion that 'Its just a chicken'.
Everyone has to realise, as jarring as it is, that individuals have their own moral code and values which are at times diametrically opposed to our own. But that's their choice the same as its ours.
As long as no one can make me kill my chickens, I won't try and make them give up their KFC
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15:08
Sep 9th 2010
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I Snajper I
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windjunky said:
Surely all these animals have been bred for eating over the centuries. I don't have a problem eating meat that has been reared and killed responsibly. It costs more, but I couldn't be dealing with that super cheap, quick reared, pumped full of antibiotics meat. It's just not the done thing.
By this sort of reasoning, it would be perfectly acceptable to eat humans if we raised them for food.
What is the difference between a pig raised on a farm and a pig raised as a pet? What is the difference between a human hypothetically raised on a farm and a human raised in society?
I’m having trouble writing a lot in response to this argument, because it just doesn’t make sense. People used to be raised to be slaves… was that OK?
You're argument is kind of bullshit. Nowhere else in nature do any of these issues come into play. It's just that stupid muscle in our heads that makes us question the morality of our instinct.
Sure the practices and methods used for animal slaughter are unpleasant and there is a certain choice as to where you can source your meat. As with all businesses though, it's all down to lowering production costs to maximise profit. Until major supermarkets change their respective purchasing methods there will always be these types of slaughtering practices. But thats a whole other topic of discussion.
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15:10
Sep 9th 2010
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This is my point.. People are fooled from a young age that it's ok to eat meat. McDonalds use a fucking clown so kids love it. They put happy smiling cows on the side of meat pie trucks.. it's a farce. People can't make the correct choice if they don't know all the facts.
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15:17
Sep 9th 2010
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windjunky said:
This is my point.. People are fooled from a young age that it's ok to eat meat. McDonalds use a fucking clown so kids love it. They put happy smiling cows on the side of meat pie trucks.. it's a farce. People can't make the correct choice if they don't know all the facts.
But it is OK to eat meat… isn't it?
This is an interesting thread that I've been watching the past day or so with some interesting points being raised. I just worry a little that passion can get the better of people and before we know it, we'll all fall out.
But WJ – as much as I love you, its quite alright to eat meat. Thats very natural.
As for others thoughts on the methods of farming meats, Snaj was very right in pointing out that these activities are done to gain the most profit.
I also dissagree with the line "if you want to eat meat you should be prepared to kill and cook it yourself". Its the 21st century and we've evolved a hell of a lot. If the only way to get meat was to do that, I guess I would be. However I have a job (finally) and money to pay someone else to do it for him – which gives him money and soooo the money of the world continues to pass from one to another, allowing us to continue our existance.
Ok, this is a pretty bullshit reply, but I'm in the office and having to ALT+TAB every few seconds…
Much love x
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15:18
Sep 9th 2010
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It is OK to eat meat.
I find the arguement of "using a clown" to somehow hypnotise kids similar to Sky News or the Sun claiming a GTA game made some kid shoot someone or steal a car.
You say people can't make the correct choice I think you mean an informed choice.
On a side note: WTF is Guernica wearing on his Avatar?
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15:33
Sep 9th 2010
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windjunky
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Post edited 15:34 – Sep 9th 2010 by windjunky
I'm not overly passionate about this subject.. My arguments and reasons have had a lot of thought.. for instance, when people say it's natural to eat meat.. I hear this all the time. Assuming it is natural to eat meat, so what? Living in caves and dying of old age at 30 is natural. Murder, rape, and random violence are very natural behavior, not just to humans, but to most animals. Just because humans have often killed animals for meat in the past is no justification for continuing the barbaric practice.
It is just as natural for humans to not eat meat. Our closest cousins, chimpanzees, hunt and eat animals, but only as a tiny minority of their mostly herbivorous diet. Since they do not have grocery stores, they may not be able to get complete nutrition from the plants in their area. Also, they may like the taste of flesh. But then again, they also may not be considering the moral consequences of their actions. The real question here is, do you have higher morals than a chimp?
At the end of the day it's about choices and as Snaj corrected me.. it's about informed choices. It's true we live in a society that has moved on from the caveman days. We live in modern societies that produce art, literature, music.. so let's behave like civilised human beings and not cavemen.
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