Hugo Rune said:

A Winnie the pooh romper suit!

I'd eat Winnie the Pooh, the fuckers full of honey

It's like 50 times gayerer than his Buzz Lightyear costume.

I Snajper I said:

Hugo Rune said:

A Winnie the pooh romper suit!

I'd eat Winnie the Pooh, the fuckers full of honey

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It's like 50 times gayerer than his Buzz Lightyear costume.

I can't believe people don't like my new Winnie the Pooh costume.  I love Winnie the Pooh.  I love Piglet more but he wasn't on any of the costumes.

Back on topic, I eat all sorts of stuff.  I love meat.  I love snails.  I love mussels, cockles and winkles.  I also love vegetables, fruit and cheese.  Wine, beer, whiskey.  It's all fair game.

I've even been known to take some pleasure from a nice cigar of late.

Some of these pleasures are bad for me.  Animal cruelty is wrong.  I know all this, but we only live once.

If I see an animal in distress, I help it.  If I see two people fighting, I break it up.

I can't save all the animals just like I can't save all the people, but I can try.

Does this make me a bad person?

windjunky said:

This is my point.. People are fooled from a young age that it's ok to eat meat. McDonalds use a fucking clown so kids love it. They put happy smiling cows on the side of meat pie trucks.. it's a farce. People can't make the correct choice if they don't know all the facts.

Iv'e never seen a smiling cow ever, their all miserable feckers.

Post edited 19:18 – Sep 9th 2010 by windjunky

Ancient Gamer said:

… Also saying that people who choose not to eat meat are somehow morally superior and more civilised than the rest of us comes across as very sanctimonious.

That's exactly what I'm saying.. well done you.

Jurassic Prinny said:

Maybe there's a better way?

Douglas Adams will always be my inspiration.. 
"It is an important and popular fact that things are not always how they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, man has always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins, because he had achieved so much – the wheel, New York, wars, and so on – whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man – for precisely the same reason." — Douglas Adams 

Hugo Rune said:

Dude you know your chickens! They've only just arrived so we don't expect eggs for probably a month or so but damn they're good fun.

Yeah more fun than you an AG you peer of boring basterds yeah.

I do find their small mouths quite troublesome but i persist.

Post edited 02:33 – Sep 12th 2010 by CoinsMonter

windjunky, I really respect your views.  I also have the utmost respect for Phizzy (in many ways, but especially on this topic), who even admits that "if people have realised the moral implications but think that taste wins then fair enough".

I am not a vegetarian.  Sometime I wish I were, but I am weak!

I recognise the issues with us "paying" someone else to slaughter for us, as Matthew puts is.  I hasten to add, that I have killed and eaten animals – pig, boar, chicken, pheasant, fish.  Not got round to any cattle yet, mind.  That said, I am not a farmer and live in a town/city, so I buy my meat in a shop.  I do, however, want animals to have the best possible life, so I only buy free range, etc.

Thus, I buy my meat at the local butcher, who can vouch for the farms he gets his stuff from, and I have seen said farms.  Similarly, I will not eat meat when out at a restaurant or the like unless I can be reasonably sure it is free range.

Nonetheless, I also know that even this is not enough.  The "if I didn't buy that free range chicken it would never have lived so I've done it a favour" argument is spurious at best.  I firmly believe that in the future, we will all be vegetarian.  It is barbaric and unnecessary to eat meat.  I only do so because it is publicly acceptable, and because I love the taste.  But I have no justification for it.

I would like to make a minor, but relevant point, though.  I have no need to eat meat because I have a good job and am able to get my nutrients elsewhere.  However, the role of battery farmed chickens and the like in improving the protein and vitamin content of the populace at large cannot be underestimated.  The increase in general health from 1960 onwards is, in large, due to the improved nutrition in the average person's diet – often caused by said battery farming. I would be hesitant to remove such a source as the life of a human (however chavvy!) is worth more than that of a chicken, to me.

As long as frozen packets of cheap meat remain a primary source of nutrition for a fair proportion of the population, it is impossible to justify vegetarianism as an alternative.  Sorry, WJ, I agree with your morals, but practically you are wrong.  I also admit that I have no excuse, and should be vegetarian, but I am not.  I suppose I'm like a smoker who knows he should quit, but won't.  Except that, in this case, there is no health risk!

Well written CM.. You've obviously given this some serious thought and touched on some really important issues.
I can't agree with the sweeping statement "1960 onwards is, in large, due to the improved nutrition in the average person's diet – often caused by said battery farming" Sadly this is just untrue. People have been fooled into believing white meat is good for us, but it isn't. Chicken meat is full of 'bad' fats. Modern birds contain three times more fat than they did 35 years ago. It can clog arteries,  trigger some forms of cancer and is one of the biggest causes of food poisoning in the world.

The irony is that millions of consumers in the first world are dying from diseases of affluence such as heart attacks, strokes, diabetes and cancer, brought on by eating animal products, while the world’s poor are dying from diseases of poverty. We are long overdue for a global discussion on how to promote a diversified, high-protein, vegetarian diet for the human race.

I've been vegetarian since I was five or six and feel no need for additional proteins or vitamin supplements. I can boast being healthier and younger looking than my friends of the same age and even younger than me. Some people don't stop at just being vegetarian and won't eat anything, even plants, that have been killed. More power to them, but I feel that lifestyle is impossible to maintain especially on fruitarian diet.

There's also the ecological devastation that intensive farming causes to our fragile planet. It's not just a matter of life and death of the animals, but the survival of the human race as a species. These sound like massive exaggerations, but the impact on the planet from a meat based diet is killing the earth.
10 acres of land can be used to produce enough meat to feed two people. That same land could be used to  grow maize, wheat and other grains to feed 24 people and enough soya to feed 64.

The animal protein industry is the most powerful and politically influential industries in the world. It's products are as much commodities as cars and T.Vs. This places more importance on us to act as individuals and not en-mass brainwashed into what we're fed by the media.